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	<description>the shifting interests of Collin David Anderson.</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Syria, eGovernance, Sanctions and an American Connection a very small bird</title>
		<link>http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/bluecoat-and-syria-indicators-and-culpability/comment-page-1#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Syria, eGovernance, Sanctions and an American Connection a very small bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to my general line of research, there are very few requests for technology, instead requesting packaging for produce, mass transit [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OpSyria s03e02 : Bluecoat s&#8217;enfonce dans le mensonge &#124; Fhimt.com</title>
		<link>http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/bluecoat-and-syria-indicators-and-culpability/comment-page-1#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>OpSyria s03e02 : Bluecoat s&#8217;enfonce dans le mensonge &#124; Fhimt.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revanche, lorsque les appliances BlueCoat présentes en Syrie se sont connectées chez papa, pour affiner le filtrage, BlueCoat aurait pu (à quoi ça sert que le DPI se décarcasse ?) noter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] revanche, lorsque les appliances BlueCoat présentes en Syrie se sont connectées chez papa, pour affiner le filtrage, BlueCoat aurait pu (à quoi ça sert que le DPI se décarcasse ?) noter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/bluecoat-and-syria-indicators-and-culpability/comment-page-1#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilhelm,

While the traffic entries that I believe were DRTR calls may be K9, the logs are from machines that appeared to identify as ProxySG devices. However, my mistake may have been in being succinct. These logs contain several other types of calls to BC services during the collection period. At the moment the conversation has shifted to rebutting the response of BC (http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/this-is-definitely-not-a-bluecoat-device-in-syria), but I will update this post with clarification and then follow up on the matter when possible.

I appreciate the critique :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilhelm,</p>
<p>While the traffic entries that I believe were DRTR calls may be K9, the logs are from machines that appeared to identify as ProxySG devices. However, my mistake may have been in being succinct. These logs contain several other types of calls to BC services during the collection period. At the moment the conversation has shifted to rebutting the response of BC (<a href="http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/this-is-definitely-not-a-bluecoat-device-in-syria)" rel="nofollow">http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/this-is-definitely-not-a-bluecoat-device-in-syria)</a>, but I will update this post with clarification and then follow up on the matter when possible.</p>
<p>I appreciate the critique :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wilhelm</title>
		<link>http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/bluecoat-and-syria-indicators-and-culpability/comment-page-1#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilhelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I cannot speak for the origins of the graph, but have some faith of Arturo’s work.&quot;

Don&#039;t be so sure. This isn&#039;t coming from Blue Coat hardware.  This is a log from Blue Coat&#039;s K9 offering... a free desktop content filtering application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I cannot speak for the origins of the graph, but have some faith of Arturo’s work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be so sure. This isn&#8217;t coming from Blue Coat hardware.  This is a log from Blue Coat&#8217;s K9 offering&#8230; a free desktop content filtering application.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/bluecoat-and-syria-indicators-and-culpability/comment-page-1#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - I cannot speak for the origins of the graph, but have some faith of Arturo&#039;s work. From what I know, he scraped OpenDNS&#039;s service to determine the category of the destination address. 

Syria&#039;s blocking was politically motivated, targeting dissident sites, platforms for mobilizations, and terms like &#039;proxy&#039; and &#039;Israel.&#039;

I would point out that Websense would also fall under sanctions and that Syria would be unlikely to turn to Israel. As for China, I cannot say that anyone stands to gain from American firms providing technology to repress online activity.

I look forward to your results, please do contact me when you have work to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; I cannot speak for the origins of the graph, but have some faith of Arturo&#8217;s work. From what I know, he scraped OpenDNS&#8217;s service to determine the category of the destination address. </p>
<p>Syria&#8217;s blocking was politically motivated, targeting dissident sites, platforms for mobilizations, and terms like &#8216;proxy&#8217; and &#8216;Israel.&#8217;</p>
<p>I would point out that Websense would also fall under sanctions and that Syria would be unlikely to turn to Israel. As for China, I cannot say that anyone stands to gain from American firms providing technology to repress online activity.</p>
<p>I look forward to your results, please do contact me when you have work to share.</p>
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		<title>By: paul burrell</title>
		<link>http://b.averysmallbird.com/entries/bluecoat-and-syria-indicators-and-culpability/comment-page-1#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>paul burrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um.  out of curiosity, how much inbound bandwidth does Syria have?  I use bluecoat at the office, because we don&#039;t have nearly as much bandwidth as I&#039;d like.  

If -- and it&#039;s a large if -- the chart posted from this data elsewhere is accurately describing blocked traffic, as opposed to total traffic -- even then, it&#039;s possible the Bluecoats are mostly blocking garbage to keep bandwidth available.  (The huge amount of web advertising, for instance, may be a bandwidth conservation measure.)  

Unfortunately, no methodology for that chart is posted.  I have a license for the reporter tool, so I&#039;ll be doing my own analysis of the logs this week.  

Now, the surveillance piece is problematic, of course - the bluecoat provides an easy-to-read log.  But all ISPs maintain some level of connection logging.  If Bluecoat pulls its hardware, and the Syrians go to Websense, or contract with Chinese or Israei firms  for equivalent logging and visibility, is this in some way better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um.  out of curiosity, how much inbound bandwidth does Syria have?  I use bluecoat at the office, because we don&#8217;t have nearly as much bandwidth as I&#8217;d like.  </p>
<p>If &#8212; and it&#8217;s a large if &#8212; the chart posted from this data elsewhere is accurately describing blocked traffic, as opposed to total traffic &#8212; even then, it&#8217;s possible the Bluecoats are mostly blocking garbage to keep bandwidth available.  (The huge amount of web advertising, for instance, may be a bandwidth conservation measure.)  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, no methodology for that chart is posted.  I have a license for the reporter tool, so I&#8217;ll be doing my own analysis of the logs this week.  </p>
<p>Now, the surveillance piece is problematic, of course &#8211; the bluecoat provides an easy-to-read log.  But all ISPs maintain some level of connection logging.  If Bluecoat pulls its hardware, and the Syrians go to Websense, or contract with Chinese or Israei firms  for equivalent logging and visibility, is this in some way better?</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; This is Definitely Not A BlueCoat Device In Syria. a very small bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; This is Definitely Not A BlueCoat Device In Syria. a very small bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Refutal of BlueCoat Devices in Syria, BlueCoat and Syria: Indicators and Culpability [...]</description>
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